Super sweet girl who spoke to me. But they are misleading. I was looking for a group class and was very clear about that over the phone. I’m new to town and did not know anyone, and dog classes were a gift from my mom to help get out of the house, and to take my already very wel…Read full reviewClose full review
Super sweet girl who spoke to me. But they are misleading. I was looking for a group class and was very clear about that over the phone. I’m new to town and did not know anyone, and dog classes were a gift from my mom to help get out of the house, and to take my already very well-trained dog to the next level. They came to my house then showed me the shock collar they use and said they start dogs off by you leaving your dog with them, without you. Update/Reply: I use the term shock collar, but an e-collar aka electric collar or remote training collar are the same thing. Low-stim is simply the level you set it at. Treats are treats- you can use them with literally any tool to form positive associations. Sometimes e-collars come with sounds or other add-ons. I have a high pain tolerance— when they had me hold it and feel the shock, of course I couldn’t feel it at the lowest but when I could feel, it didn’t hurt, but I did ‘startle’ and felt a small anxious adrenaline rush. My dog is an adult rescue who went through some abuse before me, so I feel this would not be the right choice for him. I’m not sure what studies are out there on the e-collar and previously abused dogs, or anxious/fearful dogs (my dog is not anxious/fearful but I’m curious)— but having my MA in research psychology I’d guess that it should only be used with certain dogs— happy, confident dogs who have always had a happy life— not because they literally cause pain, but because even low-stim can cause reactions in the endocrine system etc. Leaving my dog alone all day as he is being “low-stim” zapped without me feels strange. I would have been happy to start with individual training where I am also present. I’m protective of my pup and know him best. Also, e-collars are incredibly easy to train your dog with. I could have done that myself— that’s why I felt kind of sad and “led-on” when she pulled it out of the bag after we had talked for so long. It’s psychology- get people invested , insist on coming to their home, talk a lot so you feel trust, and then at the end pull out the collar and make your sales pitch. Finn is six now, but I took a 2 year old highly aggressive (had to muzzle him at first) 110 lb rescue with zero training and not potty trained who had been an abused outdoor dog, and turned him into a marshmallow that kids can run up to and grab (though I wish they wouldn’t) who does whatever I ask. I did this all with positive reinforcement. Mostly praise, he loves praise. I did establish myself as “alpha” through stance and firm voice, which isn’t part of the positive-reinforcement training method, but I think is important with an untrained, aggressive giant breed. I say this because I don’t think it’s wise to try to convince me that an e-collar is what’s best for Finn, with his complicated history + what has worked so well already. Last week my mom sent me a “clicker” and Finn learned to come with the click in one minute. One treat. That said, if you work long hours and don’t have the time to invest, and have a happy confident dog that’s always had a happy life, this could work for you, and the women I spoke to were all very nice. I believe Finn is in fact ready for group classes and I hope to find one.
